Saginaw Gear M1 Carbine S’G’ Irwin-Pedersen SG .30 Semi Automatic Rifle C&R

SOLD FOR: $3746

LSB#: 210925MZ70

Make: Saginaw S’G’. Saginaw Steering Gear Division of General Motors– Grand Rapids. This M1 Carbine was built using the remaining parts at the failed Irwin-Pedersen factory in Grand Rapids.

Model: M1 Carbine.

Serial Number: 1829929

Year of Manufacture: 1942 to 1944. No specific manufacture dates are listed due to a number of reasons explained on pages 24 to 26 of Scott Duff’s book, The M1 Carbine Owner’s Guide.
Barrel Date: June, 1944

Caliber: .30 Carbine

Action Type: Semi Auto, Detachable Magazine

Markings: There is no import mark. The top front of the receiver is marked “U.S. CARBINE / CAL. .30 M1.” and the top rear is marked “SAGINAW S’ G’ / 1829929”. The left side of the receiver (under the wood) is marked “J” and has a tooling hole at the rear. Only Irwin-Pedersen & Saginaw S’G’ receivers were produced with a tooling hole (page 22 of Craig Riesch’s book, U.S. M1 Carbines Wartime Production 7th Edition). The top of the barrel is marked “BUFFALO ARMS / 6 – 44” and “P”. Buffalo Arms supplied barrels with earlier dates to Saginaw S’G’ (page 50). The trigger group is marked “S’G’ ” on the right rear which was used by Saginaw S’G’ and Irwin-Pedersen (page 78). The hammer is marked “circled B/R” which is a Rock Ola mark (page 89). The magazine release is marked “IPW” which was used by Saginaw S’G’ and Irwin-Pedersen (page 100-101). The smooth push button safety is unmarked which is consistent with other manufacturers (page 95). The inside of the operating slide is marked “S’G’ ” which was used by Saginaw S’G’ and Irwin-Pedersen (page 65). The operating slide arm is marked with a “flaming bomb”. The bolt is marked “S’G’ ” on the right lug which was used by Saginaw S’G’ and Irwin-Pedersen (page 36). The front sight is marked “N” which is consistent with Saginaw S’G’ and others (page 56). The Type I rear sight is marked “S” on the left and “B-S’G’ “ on the right which are Saginaw S’G’ marks (page 29). The Type IA barrel band is marked “UI” which was used by Inland and National Postal Meter (page 59). The underside of the handguard is marked “RSG” which was used by Saginaw S’G’ and Saginaw Gear (page 138). The sling well is marked “RSG” which was used by Saginaw S’G’, Irwin-Pedersen, and Saginaw Gear (page 108-109). The right side of the butt is marked “S’G’ in a box” and with a “crossed cannons” cartouche which are Saginaw S’G” marks (page 125). The edge of the butttplate is makred “PM-IP” which is an Irwin-Pedersen mark (page 111). One of the magazines is marked “U” which is listed as a miscellaneous mark. The other 2 magazines are each marked “MN” which are National Postal Meter marks (page 142-143). The magazine pouch flap is marked “U.S.” on the outside and with a crossed out number on the inside. The rear of the pouch is marked with faded stampings that include “1943”.

Barrel Length: Approximately 18 Inches

Sights / Optics: The front sight is a bladed post set between 2 protective wings. The rear sight is a Type I dual flip up aperture.

Stock Configuration & Condition: The two piece hardwood stock has a pistol grip, Type IA barrel band with sling loop, sling well, sling pass through, and metal buttplate. The butplate and barrel band show surface erosion and a brown patina. The stock shows several scrapes, scratches, and compression marks. Many have damaged small portions of the surface wood. These marks have been oiled. The LOP measures 13 ¼ inches from the front of the trigger to the back of the buttplate. The stock rates in about Very Good overall condition.

Type of Finish: Parkerized

Finish Originality: Original to Rebuild

Bore Condition: The muzzle and grooves are gray. The rifling is deep; less pronounced at the muzzle. The face and edge of the muzzle show prominent erosion. There is fouling and intermittent erosion at the muzzle and in the grooves. The fouling should clean up some. The bore shows an M.E. of 3.

Overall Condition: This rifle retains about 50% of its metal finish. The metal shows scrapes, discoloration from oxidation, and surface erosion. The right side of the receiver shows thinning from cycling. Most of the markings are deep. The barrel markings are faded. Overall, this rifle rates in about Good condition.

Mechanics: The action functions correctly. We did not fire this rifle. As with all used firearms, a thorough cleaning may be necessary to meet your maintenance requirements.

Box, Paperwork & Accessories: The rifle comes with three 15 round magazines that show scrapes & oxidation. The first magazine is in Very Good Plus condition. The second magazine also shows a patch of surface erosion. It is in Very Good condition. The third magazine also shows surface erosion. It is in Good condition. The rifle has a canvas sling and a canvas dual mag pouch attached. They show discoloration & soiling on the canvas as well as oxidation on the metal. The sling is in Very Good Plus condition. The mag pouch is in Very Good condition.
The 15 round magazines are not available to residents of California or any other state with magazine capacity restrictions.

Our Assessment: The M1 Carbine was developed and produced after WWII started. Over 6 million were made by a number of U.S. companies to assist with the all out war effort. The M1 Carbine was widely issued to U.S. Military Forces which numbered over 16 million during WWII. The M1 Carbine contributed greatly to U.S. efforts during WWII.
Saginaw Gear M1 Carbines are sought after by collectors. There are 2 separate Saginaw Gear manufacturers of M1 Carbines. Both were Divisions of General Motors but were located in different cities. Saginaw Carbines made in the original Saginaw, Michigan factory are marked “S.G.” or “SG”. Saginaw Carbines made in the Grand Rapids, Michigan factory are marked “S’G’ ”. Saginaw S’G’ guns were produced from the remnants of the failed Irwin-Pedersen factory in Grand Rapids. Saginaw took over production in Grand Rapids and marked the facilities M1 Carbines S’G’ to differentiate them from the ones produced at the original Saginaw plant.
This Saginaw S’G’ M1 Carbine was built sometime between 1942 and 1944 from the remaining parts at the failed Irwin-Pedersen factory in Grand Rapids. This rare M1 Carbine has seen some use but has lots of Saginaw S’G’ / Irwin-Pedersen marks on the metal and on the stock. The markings add to its history. This one comes with 3 mags, a dual mag pouch, and a sling. This Saginaw S’G’ M1 Carbine will add to your WWII collection. Good luck.

Saginaw Gear M1 Carbine S’G’ Irwin-Pedersen SG .30 Semi Automatic Rifle C&R
Saginaw Gear M1 Carbine S’G’ Irwin-Pedersen SG .30 Semi Automatic Rifle C&R