Saginaw Gear M1 Carbine S’G’ Irwin-Pedersen SG .30 Semi Auto Rifle C&R

SOLD FOR: $2,680.02

LSB#: 230923WM043

Make: Saginaw S’G’. Saginaw Steering Gear Division of General Motors– Grand Rapids. This M1 Carbine was originally built using many of the remaining parts at the failed Irwin-Pedersen factory in Grand Rapids.

Model: M1 Carbine

Serial Number: 1871791

Year of Manufacture: 1942 to 1944. No specific manufacture dates are listed due to a number of reasons explained on pages 24 to 26 of Scott Duff’s book, The M1 Carbine Owner’s Guide.
Barrel Date: September 1943

Caliber: .30 Carbine

Action Type: Semi Auto, Detachable Magazine
There is No magazine.

Markings: There is no import mark. The top front of the receiver is marked “U.S. CARBINE / CAL. .30 M1.” and the top rear is marked “SAGINAW S’ G’ / 1871791”. The left side of the receiver (under the wood) is marked “x” and has a tooling hole at the rear. Only Irwin-Pedersen and Saginaw S’G’ receivers were produced with a tooling hole. The top of the barrel is marked “BUFFALO ARMS / 9 – 1943 / flaming bomb” and “P”. Buffalo Arms supplied barrels to the Saginaw S’G’ factory for assembly. The left rear of the trigger group is marked “S’G’ ”. The hammer is unmarked. The magazine release is marked “M”. The safety is marked “M inside a C”. The inside of the operating slide is marked “S’G’ ”. The bolt is marked “SG”. The front sight is marked “N”. The Type III rear sight is marked “I.R.CO.”. The Type IA barrel band is marked “KV S’G’ ”. The underside of the handguard is marked with a faded stamping. The face of the grip is marked “P”. The left side of the stock is marked “AAN” and “AN” next to the grip. The right side of the stock is marked with a boxed “S’G’ ” and a “crossed cannons” cartouche.

Barrel Length: Approximately 18 Inches

Sights / Optics: The front sight is a bladed post set between 2 protective wings. The rear sight is a Type III adjustable aperture assembly.

Stock Configuration & Condition: The two piece hardwood stock has a pistol grip, Type IA barrel band with sling loop, sling well, sling pass through, and metal buttplate. The buttplate shows small light scrapes. The nose of the stock is missing a small piece of edge wood. This area has been sanded. The stock shows scrapes, scratches, and compression marks as well as light sanding marks. The LOP measures 13 1/4 inches from the front of the trigger to the back of the buttplate. The stock rates in about Very Good overall condition, as refurbished.

Type of Finish: Gun Paint. Parkerized Parts.

Finish Originality: Refinished

Bore Condition: The muzzle and grooves are semi bright. The rifling is deep. There is fouling in the bore that should clean up some. There is erosion at the muzzle and in the grooves. The bore shows an M.E. of 0.5.
In this writer’s opinion, this bore rates 7 out of 10.
Many military and C&R eligible weapons have bores that will show erosion. This is not only due to age but to the fact that corrosive primers were commonly used in ammunition worldwide. For example, the U.S. used corrosive ammunition throughout WWII. The U.S. military did not begin to phase out corrosive-primed ammunition until the 1950s.

Overall Condition: This rifle retains about 98% of its metal finish as refinished. The metal shows scuffs and small scrapes. The action shows operational wear. Most of the markings are well defined.  Overall, this rifle rates in about Very Good Plus condition as refinished.

Mechanics: The action functions correctly. We did not fire this rifle. As with all used firearms, a thorough cleaning may be necessary to meet your maintenance requirements.

Box, Paperwork & Accessories: There is No Magazine.
The rifle comes with a green canvas sling.

Our Assessment: The M1 Carbine was developed and produced after WWII started. Over 6 million were made by a number of U.S. companies to assist with the all out war effort. The M1 Carbine was widely issued to U.S. Military Forces which numbered over 16 million during WWII. The M1 Carbine contributed greatly to U.S. efforts during WWII.
Saginaw Gear M1 Carbines are sought after by collectors. There are 2 separate Saginaw Gear manufacturers of M1 Carbines. Both were Divisions of General Motors but were located in different cities. Saginaw Carbines made in the original Saginaw, Michigan factory are marked “S.G.” or “SG”. Saginaw Carbines made in the Grand Rapids, Michigan factory are marked “S’G’ ”. Saginaw S’G’ guns were produced from the remnants of the failed Irwin-Pedersen factory in Grand Rapids. Saginaw took over production in Grand Rapids and marked the facilities M1 Carbines S’G’ to differentiate them from the ones produced at the original Saginaw plant.

This Saginaw S’G’ M1 Carbine was built sometime between 1942 and 1944. It was originally built using many of the remaining parts at the failed Irwin-Pedersen factory in Grand Rapids. This Saginaw S’G’ M1 Carbine uses a receiver that was made with a tooling hole. Tooling holes are only found on Irwin-Pedersen and Saginaw S’G’ receivers. This M1 Carbine has been Arsenal Rebuilt and is marked accordingly on the stock. It has since been refinished.

…Now go shoot something!