Saginaw Gear M1 Carbine Irwin-Pedersen S’G’ SG .30 Semi Auto Rifle C&R

SOLD FOR: $3,015

LSB#: 230923WM044

Make: Saginaw S’G’. Saginaw Steering Gear Division of General Motors– Grand Rapids. This M1 Carbine was originally built using many of the remaining parts at the failed Irwin-Pedersen factory in Grand Rapids.

Model: M1 Carbine
Serial Number: 3219339
Year of Manufacture: 1942 to 1944. No specific manufacture dates are listed due to a number of reasons explained on pages 24 to 26 of Scott Duff’s book, The M1 Carbine Owner’s Guide.
Barrel Date: January 1943
Caliber: .30 Carbine
Action Type: Semi Auto, Detachable Magazine
There is No magazine.
Markings: There is no import mark. The top front of the receiver is marked “U.S. CARBINE / CAL. .30 M1.” and the top rear is marked “SAGINAW S’ G’ / 3219339”. The left side of the receiver (under the wood) is marked “5” and has a tooling hole at the rear. Only Irwin-Pedersen and Saginaw S’G’ receivers were produced with a tooling hole. The top of the barrel is marked (faded) “UNDERWOOD / 1 – 43 / flaming bomb” and “P”. Underwood supplied barrels to the Saginaw S’G’ factory for assembly. The left rear of the trigger group is marked “S’G’ ” and has a tooling hole at the rear. Irwin-Pedersen and some Saginaw S’G’ trigger groups were produced with a tooling hole. The hammer is marked “S’G’ ”. The magazine release is marked “IP-B”. The safety is marked “IP-W”. The inside of the operating slide is marked “S’G’ ”. The bolt is marked “S’G’ ”. The front sight is marked “N”. The Type I rear sight is marked “S” on the left and “RP” on both the right side and on the face of the front aperture. The Type IA barrel band is marked KV S’G’ ”. The underside of the Type I handguard is unmarked. The sling well is marked “RSG”. The bottom of the grip is marked “Xx”. The right side of the stock is marked with a boxed “S’G’ ” and a “crossed cannons” cartouche. The recoil plate is marked “SG”.

Barrel Length: Approximately 18 Inches
Sights / Optics: The front sight is a bladed post set between 2 protective wings. The rear sight is a Type I dual flip up aperture.
Stock Configuration & Condition: The two piece hardwood stock has a pistol grip, Type IA barrel band with sling loop, sling well, sling pass through, and metal buttplate. The buttplate shows shallow dents, wear, and oxidation. There is a reinforcing pin at the bottom front of the grip. The stock shows small scrapes & scratches as well as light sanding marks. The LOP measures 13 1/4 inches from the front of the trigger to the back of the buttplate. The stock rates in about Very Good Plus to Fine overall condition as refurbished.
Type of Finish: Parkerized
Finish Originality: Refinished
Bore Condition: The muzzle is light gray. The remaining grooves are semi bright. The rifling is sharp. There is fouling in the bore that should clean up some. The bore shows an M.E. of 1.8.
In this writer’s opinion, this bore rates 7 out of 10.
Many military and C&R eligible weapons have bores that will show erosion. This is not only due to age but to the fact that corrosive primers were commonly used in ammunition worldwide. For example, the U.S. used corrosive ammunition throughout WWII. The U.S. military did not begin to phase out corrosive-primed ammunition until the 1950s.
Overall Condition: This rifle retains about 70% of its metal finish as refinished. The receiver and bolt have areas of cleaned surface erosion & pitting showing through the new finish. The metal shows scuffs, scrapes, and areas of discoloration from both oil residue and oxidation.

The exposed portion of the barrel shows surface erosion and a brown patina. The sides of the trigger group show a few areas of thinning. The action shows operational wear. The markings on the barrel are faded. The remaining markings are clear. Overall, this rifle rates in about Very Good condition as refinished.
Mechanics: The action functions correctly. We did not fire this rifle. As with all used firearms, a thorough cleaning may be necessary to meet your maintenance requirements.
Box, Paperwork & Accessories: There is No magazine.

Our Assessment: The M1 Carbine was developed and produced after WWII started. Over 6 million were made by a number of U.S. companies to assist with the all out war effort. The M1 Carbine was widely issued to U.S. Military Forces which numbered over 16 million during WWII. The M1 Carbine contributed greatly to U.S. efforts during WWII.
Saginaw Gear M1 Carbines are sought after by collectors. There are 2 separate Saginaw Gear manufacturers of M1 Carbines. Both were Divisions of General Motors but were located in different cities. Saginaw Carbines made in the original Saginaw, Michigan factory are marked “S.G.” or “SG”. Saginaw Carbines made in the Grand Rapids, Michigan factory are marked “S’G’ ”. Saginaw S’G’ guns were produced from the remnants of the failed Irwin-Pedersen factory in Grand Rapids. Saginaw took over production in Grand Rapids and marked the facilities M1 Carbines S’G’ to differentiate them from the ones produced at the original Saginaw plant.

This Saginaw S’G’ M1 Carbine was built sometime between 1942 and 1944. It was originally built using many of the remaining parts at the failed Irwin-Pedersen factory in Grand Rapids. Almost all of the parts are Irwin-Pedersen or Saginaw S’G’ parts. The recoil plate is a Saginaw SG part (not S’G’). The barrel is an Underwood barrel that was supplied to Saginaw S’G’. The rifle appears to have been originally assembled with the Underwood barrel, so the barrel is still considered a matching part.

…Now go shoot something!

Saginaw Gear M1 Carbine Irwin-Pedersen S’G’ SG .30 Semi Auto Rifle C&R
Saginaw Gear M1 Carbine Irwin-Pedersen S’G’ SG .30 Semi Auto Rifle C&R